{"id":12922,"date":"2021-11-21T13:24:26","date_gmt":"2021-11-21T13:24:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-19\/"},"modified":"2026-05-01T08:57:03","modified_gmt":"2026-05-01T08:57:03","slug":"liebenberg-janos-19","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-19\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Geschrieben in Wien dem 10ten<\/sup><\/em>[1]<\/a>[a]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mein guter Liebenberg, nun ist selbst das Schicksal der zwei Buben entschieden[b]<\/a> – Bremberg<\/em>[2]<\/a>[c]<\/a> will in phisicher und moralischer hinsicht ihr Papa werden: Schicken Sie also die 2 Spitzbuben oder[3]<\/a> durch Niclas[d]<\/a> \u2013 oder durch Goldmann[e]<\/a> hier herauf NB<\/em>[4]<\/a> Sollen Sie das allerbeste anziehen was Sie besitzen – und zweitens soll ihr Begleiter auf keinem Fall wo anders absteigen als bei den Goldenen Bieren<\/em>,1<\/sup> da ich[5]<\/a> in<\/em>[6]<\/a> dem Haus meiner Eltern kein Aufsehen erregen will \u2013 und sodann soll er seine Ankunft melden. –<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Der Gro\u00dfzinkendorfer Tischler k\u00f6nnte indessen anfangen an denen Fenstern des billard Zimmer zu arbeiten \u2014 an denen ich eine nette \u2013 ausgezeichnete Simplicit\u00e4t erheische.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

alles \u00fcbrige soll das den Menschen bessere Clima \u2013 das Fr\u00fchjahr n\u00e4mlich erwarten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bethen Sie manichmal mit ihrer lieben Frau[f]<\/a> ein Ave Maria f\u00fcr mich \u2013 da ich den 17 April[g]<\/a> \u2013 in verschiedenen Wetten bereits um 700 Ducaten stehe: der Tag wird entscheiden \u2013 ob wir champagner oder ordinari Bier drinken werden. \u201eAuf jeden Fall soll aber das letztere gut sein.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Apropos – ich m\u00f6chte gerne den alten menschenm\u00f6rder Kiss,[h]<\/a> ein regelm\u00e4\u00dfiges deputat von nun an auswerfen \u2013 die ist eine Nothwendigkeit f\u00fcr die Zukunft \u2013 und anjetzt ein Tugend \u2014 So geht\u2018s mit allen unsern Schuldigkeiten, wenn wir ein Schritt gegen Sie r\u00fccken – . Schicken Sie mir also ein Plan hin\u00fcber. Adieu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

St[7]<\/a> Gf[8]<\/a> Sz\u00e9ch<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[1]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with wavy line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[2]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[3]<\/a> Instead of entweder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[4]<\/a> Nota bene. Latin: note well! Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with two lines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[5]<\/a> One word deleted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[6]<\/a> Inserted afterwards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[7]<\/a> Stephan<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[8]<\/a> Graf<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[a]<\/a> The letter was written based on its content in 1816. See the previous letter of 9. Januar 1816. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

[b]<\/a> Regarding the grooms, see the previous letter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[c]<\/a> Kereszt\u00e9ly Bremberg (Brennenberg, Broennenberg) was a Viennese horse dealer, later head stud groom of P\u00e1l Esterh\u00e1zy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[d]<\/a> The groom of Sz\u00e9chenyi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[e]<\/a> Member of the Nagycenk stable crew, saddle-maker.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[f]<\/a> Alojzia Anna Eberl (1789\u20131845), the wife of Liebenberg. They got married in 1812.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[g]<\/a> That is the date of the horse race which was postponed from January to mid-April. See the previous letter of 9 January 1816.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[h]<\/a> Andr\u00e1s Kiss, family doctor of Ferenc Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi. Sz\u00e9chenyi wanted to get him into one of the well-paid offices in Sopron County to save for his pension. According to the letter, he intended the same fate for other employees of his parents.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Vienna, 10. Januar 1816. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

The cases of the two grooms have been solved; he describes how to send them to Vienna. He asks them to start work on the windows of the billiard room in Nagycenk. He would like his father’s family doctor, Andr\u00e1s Kiss, to be put on a permanent committee.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2284,2285,3388],"tags":[3433,3425],"language":[3416],"addressee":[3419],"place_of_writing":[3397],"qualification":[3383],"place_of_keeping":[4194],"place_of_publication":[4195],"class_list":["post-12922","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-munkatarsak-en","category-lunkanyi_janos-en-munkatarsak-en","category-gazda-en","tag-castle","tag-horses","language-german","addressee-janos-liebenberg","place_of_writing-vienna","qualification-original","place_of_keeping-mta-kik-kt-k-196-94-en","place_of_publication-majlath-i-15-16-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12922","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12922"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12922\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12982,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12922\/revisions\/12982"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12922"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12922"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12922"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=12922"},{"taxonomy":"addressee","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/addressee?post=12922"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_writing","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_writing?post=12922"},{"taxonomy":"qualification","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/qualification?post=12922"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_keeping","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_keeping?post=12922"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_publication","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_publication?post=12922"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}