{"id":13246,"date":"2021-11-24T11:09:31","date_gmt":"2021-11-24T11:09:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-60\/"},"modified":"2026-05-06T07:39:55","modified_gmt":"2026-05-06T07:39:55","slug":"liebenberg-janos-60","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-60\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Lieber Liebenberg, ich hab\u2018 ihren Brief erhalten<a href=\"#_edn1\">[a]<\/a> so wie die 10 tausend Gulden \u2013 hier \u00fcbersende ich die Quittung \u2014 alles die\u00df ist Gut sch\u00f6n \u2013 aber bei weitem nicht hinl\u00e4nglich \u2014 h\u00f6ren Sie was ich Ihnen sage! \u201eIch bin mit meinem Bruder Paul den Herz<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> 26,000 fl<a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> in Conventions M\u00fcnze schuldig. 700 # in Gold dem Baptist Bathianyi<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a> \u2014 ich und meine Pferde m\u00fcssen leben &#8211; Paul wird wie ich vermuthe kein Geld haben \u2014 so f\u00e4llt die Ganze Zahlung auf mich \u2014 Ich hab\u2019 hier 40,000 Gulden die ich heben kann \u2014 berechnen Sie wie viel zur Zahlung noch nothwendig sind \u2014\u2014 und bringen Sie sie \u2014\u2014 wie? \u2014 das ist mir gleichviel \u2014 Zeigen Sie ihr Talent \u2014. Bedenken Sie aber, da\u00df wenn meine Pferde ankommen, wir auf der Stelle 2, bis 3 tausend Ducaten kriegen \u2014 bis dahin k\u00f6nnen wir aber mit der Zahlung des Herz nicht warten \u2014 der Credit w\u00e4re sonst angegriffen \u2013 \u201eIch will durchaus in binen 6 Tagen oder h\u00f6chstens 8 mit Herz endigen.<a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> Kommen Sie also so geschwind wie m\u00f6glich mit oder ohne Geld,<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> bringen Sie meine Brieftasche und Chatouille<a href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> \u2014 Adieu<a href=\"#_edn3\">[d]<\/a> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Sz\u00e9ch<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> florins<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with two lines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> French: wallet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> The letter is unknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> Herz banker in Prague, Sz\u00e9chenyi&#8217;s former creditor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> Count J\u00e1nos Batthy\u00e1ny Baptist (1784\u20131865) was a lieutenant colonel in the 5th Hussars Regiment, with whom Sz\u00e9chenyi fought against the Neapolitans in 1815. They were also related because Batthy\u00e1ny\u2019s wife, Countess M\u00e1ria Esterh\u00e1zy (1791\u20131830), was Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s cousin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[d]<\/a> Liebenberg\u2019s numbering helps to date the letter: the previous letter of 27 November was 59\/a, this is marked 59\/b, so it was probably written in late November or early December 1816.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Vienna, at the end of November 1816. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>He has received the 10,000 forints, but he and his brother P\u00e1l owed the banker Herz 26,000 forints and J\u00e1nos Batthy\u00e1ny another 700 gold pieces. 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