{"id":13250,"date":"2021-11-24T11:22:49","date_gmt":"2021-11-24T11:22:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-61\/"},"modified":"2026-05-06T07:47:27","modified_gmt":"2026-05-06T07:47:27","slug":"liebenberg-janos-61","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-61\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Hier lieber Freund, \u00fcbersende ich Ihnen die Liste der uns gegenseitig ausgestellten Schuldscheinen,[a]<\/a> mit dem Bemerken da\u00df jene Gelder die wir uns geliehen haben keinesweges mit denen zu verwechseln sind, die in die Menage gegeben w\u00fcrden. \u2014 Sie tragen die final<\/em>[1]<\/a> Rechnung bis zur letzten Tage des Jahres \u201e a 6 procento.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Erst die meinen die ich ausstellte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

6ten<\/sup> Mai —- 19,000 W. W.[2]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

8ten<\/sup> Mai         2,000 W. W.2<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n

7ten<\/sup> October 12,000 Conventions M\u00fcnze<\/p>\n\n\n\n

7ten<\/sup> October \u2014 2.000 W. W.2<\/sup>                         } in die Menage    <\/p>\n\n\n\n

4\u2013 September \u2014 6,819 W. W.2<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n

3   Dezemb \u2014 14,000 W. W.2<\/sup>          <\/p>\n\n\n\n

1  Dezemb \u2014 5.000 W. W.2<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1  August \u2014 # \u2014 6380 W W2<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n

7  Octob \u2014         1500 W W2<\/sup>        } pers\u00f6nliche Schulden<\/p>\n\n\n\n

3  10ber<\/sup>                1500 W W2<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n

# Diese 6380 fl[3]<\/a> in W. W.2<\/sup> sind die selben Gelder, die Sie dem Farkas[b]<\/a> schon fr\u00fcher h\u00e4tten bezahlen sollen, n\u00e4mlich f\u00fcr das verkaufte Pferd, welches ich dan wieder zur\u00fcckgenommen habe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nun die ich habe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1 Decemb \u2013 10,000 W. W.2 <\/sup>\u2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So eben f\u00e4llt mir ein, da\u00df Sie die \u00fcbrigen mitgenommen haben, und da\u00df folglich meine M\u00fche umsonst w\u00e4re \u2014 Berechnen Sie alles die\u00df und schicken Sie mir das resultat \u2014 Die Mutter stutten die nach Zinkendorf kommen sollen sind so eben angekommen ich werde Sie einige Tage nun hier behalten, und sodan nach Zinkendorf expediren<\/p>\n\n\n\n

die Stallungen die ich anordnete<\/em>[4]<\/a> pressiren nicht \u2014 da man sie bis ihren Ankommen in gew\u00f6hnliche St\u00e4nde indessen stellen kann.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Leben Sie indessen wohl und schicken Sie mir bald recht viel Geld.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sz\u00e9chenyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n

den 17ten<\/sup> in Wien[c]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So eben sehe ich da\u00df Sie die Geldscheine meines Bruders Paul nicht mit nahmen, und will daher alle noch einmal zu Papier setzen und Ihnen schicken, wie folgt<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1 May f\u00fcr William[d]<\/a> \u2014 24 #<\/p>\n\n\n\n

8 May \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 600 #<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1 Septemb \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 23, 348 W. W.2<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n

3 \u2014\u2014 f\u00fcr William     24 #<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1 Octob \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 140 #<\/p>\n\n\n\n

7 \u2014\u2014 \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 6724 Conven M\u00fcnz      } in die Menage<\/p>\n\n\n\n

7 \u2014\u2014 \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 600 #<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1 Decemb \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2013 10,000 W. W.2<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n

3   \u2014\u2014\u2013    \u2014     20,000 W. W.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

17 Septemb\u2014\u2014 100 #          <\/p>\n\n\n\n

                                                } als privat Schuld<\/p>\n\n\n\n

30 \u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014 \u2014\u2014 160 #<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[1]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[2]<\/a> Wiener W\u00e4hrung<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[3]<\/a> florins<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[4]<\/a> Interlining afterwards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[a]<\/a> Both Sz\u00e9chenyi and Liebenberg used letters of indebtedness and receipts to prove that they had borrowed money from the Nagycenk treasury for personal purposes or for the development of the estate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[b]<\/a> J\u00e1nos Farkas, P\u00e1l Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi\u2019s farm officer in Iv\u00e1n.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[c]<\/a> According to Liebenberg\u2019s numbering, the letter was written in December 1816 (the letter bears the number 62).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[d]<\/a> William Jones, Sz\u00e9chenyi’s English jockey and groom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Vienna, 17 December 1816. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

He is sending a list of the debit notes issued to each other. He requests that the accounts be kept at an interest of 6% until the end of the year. He also requests that the whole be recalculated. The mares have arrived, he will keep them in Vienna for a few days, and the desired horse stalls can wait.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2284,2285,3388],"tags":[3425,3544],"language":[3416],"addressee":[3419],"place_of_writing":[3397],"qualification":[3383],"place_of_keeping":[4304],"place_of_publication":[4305],"class_list":["post-13250","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-munkatarsak-en","category-lunkanyi_janos-en-munkatarsak-en","category-gazda-en","tag-horses","tag-money","language-german","addressee-janos-liebenberg","place_of_writing-vienna","qualification-original","place_of_keeping-mta-kik-kt-k-196-137-en","place_of_publication-majlath-i-34-35-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13250","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13250"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13250\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13254,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13250\/revisions\/13254"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13250"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13250"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13250"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=13250"},{"taxonomy":"addressee","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/addressee?post=13250"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_writing","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_writing?post=13250"},{"taxonomy":"qualification","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/qualification?post=13250"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_keeping","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_keeping?post=13250"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_publication","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_publication?post=13250"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}