{"id":13344,"date":"2021-11-25T15:15:34","date_gmt":"2021-11-25T15:15:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-79\/"},"modified":"2026-05-06T14:38:19","modified_gmt":"2026-05-06T14:38:19","slug":"liebenberg-janos-79","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-79\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>dem 20<sup>ten<\/sup> Jun\u00ff 1817<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mein alter Liebenberg, da\u00df Sie denen spa\u00dfigen Nachreden die man von mir ausbreitet,<a href=\"#_edn1\">[a]<\/a> keinen Glauben schenkten, danke Ihnen der Teufel, sch\u00f6ner Verdienst? \u2013 Hab\u2019 ich den<a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> in mein leben ein Geheimni\u00df vor Ihnen gehabt? wu\u00dfte ich den<sup>2<\/sup> meinem alten Freund bis jetzt nicht beweisen in wie weit mein Zutraun zu seiner Anh\u00e4nglichkeit ginge. \u2013 Ich bin, wei\u00df Gott, zu bedauern, wenn ich<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> <em>bei<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> einem Menschen, an dem ich durch Dankbarkeit und Freundschaft so sehr gekettet bin, nicht in <em>h\u00f6hen Credit<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn5\"><u>[5]<\/u><\/a> stehe \u2014 da k\u00f6nte ich ausruffen, meine Finanzen stehen schlecht! so aber stehen sie gut \u2014 und ich werde mit die 2000 <em>#<\/em><sup>4<\/sup> beinahe auskommen. einige hundert # wird\u2019s mehr sein m\u00fcssen. &#8211; Erschrecken Sie nicht, wenn ich jetzt im Anfang etwas mehr ausgebe.<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> Ich hab\u2019 uniform gebraucht. Weine f\u00fcr mehrere Monate angeschaft \u2013 <em>Quartier<\/em><sup>5<\/sup> \u2013 Holz \u2013 Fourage<a href=\"#_ftn6\">[6]<\/a>. livr\u00e9e \u2014 ect. \u2013 <em>Sie werden mit mir zufrieden sein. Jagen Sie dem Herrn von Anton<\/em><a href=\"#_edn3\"><u>[c]<\/u><\/a><em> zum Teufel<\/em>.<sup>5<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jones<a href=\"#_edn4\">[d]<\/a> soll die beiden Pferde nicht kriegen. Ich hab\u2019 in meinem Leben keinen Menschen gesehen, der f\u00fcr so wenig, mehr bek\u00f6mt \u2014 er soll sich ruhig flei\u00dfig \u2013 und wo m\u00f6glich in <em>sich gekehrt<\/em><sup>5<\/sup> verhalten \u2013 er soll mir endlich etwas n\u00fctzen \u2013 da er mir bis jetzt nur schadete. \u2013 \u00fcbrigens kann man die 2 Pferde wenn sie umsonst sind, verkaufen. In allen \u00fcbrigen Oeconomischen Sachen verfahren Sie nach Ihrem Gewi\u00dfen, \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wie soll ich ferner von dem Urtheilen was Sie nahe sehen? Vermindern Sie alle Ausgaben \u2014 arbeiten wir von 2 Seiten ich bin in einem Jahr in gewi\u00dfere Ordnung als einer im Staat. Im Grunde freuts mich, da\u00df man alles das von mir sagt \u2014 was Sie erz\u00e4hlen \u2014 ich will die Kerle \u00e4rgern, da\u00df sie schwarz werden m\u00f6gen. W\u00fcrden meine guten Eltern, denen ich so unendlich zugethan bin, sich \u00fcber alle diese Neuigkeiten nicht \u00e4rgern \u2014 ich w\u00fcrde sie selbst aussprengen. da Sie ungegr\u00fcndet sind. \u2013 Adieu \u2014 In ein par Tagen mehr. Sz\u00e9chenyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with two lines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Instead of denn. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> One word deleted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> Interlining afterwards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref5\">[5]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref6\">[6]<\/a> French: feed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> Liebenberg informed Sz\u00e9chenyi in a letter that there were rumours in Sopron County that the Count\u2019s financial situation had deteriorated and that he was in danger of bankruptcy. Liebenberg also had doubts about the situation, in view of the unfortunate development of the Liechtenstein loan transaction and the fact that Sz\u00e9chenyi had spent more than the income he had received and more than the amount of the normal apanage agreed in advance. In connection with this, see also the letters of 1 February, 12 March, 13 March and 19 May 1817, as well as the present and the following letters. (note by Gyula Viszota)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> He implies that he has only recently started to farm independently.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi&#8217;s gamekeeper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref4\">[d]<\/a> William Jones was an English jockey who assisted Sz\u00e9chenyi in purchasing horses in England.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Milan, 20 June 1817. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>He needs money, he has spent a lot. He asks him not to give Jones the two horses, and use his discretion in all other economic matters, but to reduce expenditure at all costs. 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