{"id":13424,"date":"2021-11-26T10:27:12","date_gmt":"2021-11-26T10:27:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-98\/"},"modified":"2026-05-06T17:55:23","modified_gmt":"2026-05-06T17:55:23","slug":"liebenberg-janos-98","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-98\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Mein lieber Alter, da\u00df endlich Jones[a]<\/a> weg ist bin ich ganz zufrieden: unter uns gesagt glaube ich, war der Kerl ein Kapital Spitzbube: habe es auch sehr lang schon geglaubt \u2013 die dem Menschen angeborne Eitelkeit hat mir aber nie erlaubt es zu gestehen – Wir wollen immer vern\u00fcnftiger sein als andere, und gestehen nicht gerne unsere Alberne Streiche, Nous voila enfin quittes pour l exp\u00e9rience.[1]<\/a> Und ein andermal werden wir vern\u00fcnftiger sein si c\u2019est possible.[2]<\/a> Da\u00df Obecca und Bellegarde[b]<\/a> verkauft werden sollen ist mir lieb \u2014 da ich wieder etwas Geld, welches mir gar nicht im geringsten unangenehm ist, herein kriegen werde. Ich will die beiden Walachen auch zu meinen Vortheil<\/em>[3]<\/a> verkaufen, und ich hoffe da\u00df Sie mir das Geld welches ich daf\u00fcr kriege nicht vorenthalten werden wollen, welcher ein grausamer und ihrem Herz ungew\u00f6hnliche Streich w\u00e4re. \u2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Was Sie mir wegen dem pensionirtem Officier unserm Nachbar[c]<\/a> rathen finde ich gut \u2014 Ich selbst will ihn auch gar nicht antworten, da ich ihn nicht kenne, sagen Sie ihn indessen in meinem Namen, da\u00df[4]<\/a> was Sie mir geschrieben haben.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In einigen Wochen hoffe ich Sie zu sehen,[d]<\/a> da wollen wir mit Phlegma und mit der mir angebornen K\u00e4lte vieles f\u00fcr meine zuk\u00fcnftige Art zu leben entscheiden, Wissen Sie was Sie k\u00f6nnten mich noch einmal erziehen \u2014 dan aber will ich doch eine Art phenomen werden.[e]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Leben Sie indessen wohl, das Wetter ist so sch\u00f6n, da\u00df ich nicht schreiben kan, ich mu\u00df wegen so vielen Ursachen Luft sch\u00f6pfen. \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mailand dem 22 Novemb.[f]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[1]<\/a> French: After all, we blame our experiences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[2]<\/a> French: if that is possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[3]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[4]<\/a> Instead of das.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[a]<\/a> William Jones, Sz\u00e9chenyi’s English jockey.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[b]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi’s horses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[c]<\/a> Liebenberg\u2019s letter is not known, so it is not clear exactly who it is about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[d]<\/a> He returned to Vienna from Milan in early 1818. SzIN 1. CXXXII.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[e]<\/a> He implies that Liebenberg was once his tutor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[f]<\/a> The letter was written based on its content in 1817. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Milan, 22 November 1817. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

He is satisfied that they have got rid of Jones; they will be smarter next time. He doesn’t mind if Liebenberg sells some of his horses because this way he can make some money. He finds what the neighbour is suggesting in the matter of the retired officer good, and asks Liebenberg to answer him. They will see each other again in a few weeks and can discuss matters for the future.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2284,2285,3388],"tags":[3544,4206],"language":[3416],"addressee":[3419],"place_of_writing":[3740],"qualification":[3383],"place_of_keeping":[4384],"place_of_publication":[4385],"class_list":["post-13424","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-munkatarsak-en","category-lunkanyi_janos-en-munkatarsak-en","category-gazda-en","tag-money","tag-staff","language-german","addressee-janos-liebenberg","place_of_writing-milan","qualification-original","place_of_keeping-mta-kik-kt-k-196-173-en","place_of_publication-majlath-1-67-68-kovacs-kormendy-mazi-oplatka-48-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13424","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13424"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13424\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13427,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13424\/revisions\/13427"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13424"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13424"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13424"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=13424"},{"taxonomy":"addressee","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/addressee?post=13424"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_writing","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_writing?post=13424"},{"taxonomy":"qualification","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/qualification?post=13424"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_keeping","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_keeping?post=13424"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_publication","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_publication?post=13424"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}