{"id":13725,"date":"2021-12-12T08:21:23","date_gmt":"2021-12-12T08:21:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/neumann-fulop-2\/"},"modified":"2026-05-10T18:10:31","modified_gmt":"2026-05-10T18:10:31","slug":"neumann-fulop-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/csalad-en\/neumann-fulop-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Philipp von Neumann"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Il y a bien pres d\u2019un mois que je me trouve a Vienne. Vous<a href=\"#_edn1\">[a]<\/a> avez <em>recu<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> peut etre [&#8230;]<a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> les deux lettres que je vous ai ecrites<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a>, une de<a href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> Gr\u00e9ce et lautre de Palerme \u2014 et<sup>4<\/sup> <em>dans les quelles<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> je vous disois<sup>3<\/sup>, que probablement je continuerais mes voyages \u2014 en Egypte <em>et<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> en Sirie ~~ et vous devez \u00e9tre etonn\u00e9 de<a href=\"#_ftn5\">[5]<\/a> <em>ce projet chang\u00e9<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> si subitement<sup>4<\/sup> d\u2019idees<sup>3 <\/sup><a href=\"#_ftn6\">[6]<\/a> et de dir\u00e9ction \u2013 \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>et je me<sup>4<\/sup> reproche extremement de ne pas vous avoir \u00e9crit encore,<sup>4<\/sup> <em>non<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> seulement pour me rappeler en votre aimable souvenir, mais plus encore pour vous remercier de toutes les bont\u00e9s que vous avez eues<sup>3<\/sup> pour moi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La Landauhlet est arrive quinze jours avant mon debarquement a Naples \u2013 et vous ne douterez point, que je fus je tr\u00e8s a mon aise<sup>5<\/sup> <em>de voyager<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> dans une excellente voiture anglaise apres<a href=\"#_ftn7\">[7]<\/a> <em>avoir<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> \u00e9t\u00e9 \u2013 a peu pr\u00e8s une annee enti\u00e8re, a pied \u2013 \u00e2 bord ou \u00e0 cheval \u2013 J\u2019ai pay\u00e9 la note de M<sup>r<\/sup><a href=\"#_ftn8\">[8]<\/a> de H.<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> a vue quoique je ne<sup>4<\/sup> <em>fusse<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> pas precisement dans une disposition heureuse pour pareille affaire. \u2013 J\u2019en suis extremement content \u2013 et c\u2019est a peu pr\u00e8s tout ce que j\u2019ai desir\u00e9. N\u2019y atil donc absolument rien<a href=\"#_ftn9\">[9]<\/a> <em>dans nos pays<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> dont vous pourriez me charger? Je vous assure que je suis extremement honteux de penser que j\u2019ai souvent besoin de vous et <em>que vous n\u2019<\/em><sup>4<\/sup><em>avez jamais<\/em>. \u2013<a href=\"#_ftn10\">[10]<\/a> mais si vous saviez comme mon pauvre p\u00e8re a souffert depuis mon depart, et quelle maladie grave<sup>4<\/sup> il vient de faire \u2013 je n\u2019aurai pas besoin de vous<sup>4<\/sup> <em>donner<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> ici une longue apologie, de ma conduite \u2013 qui ressemble beaucoup \u2013 au mal du pays. \u2013<sup>4<\/sup> Il se porte beaucoup mieux, mais pas assez bien \u2013 pour que je<sup>4<\/sup> <em>puisse<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> former de nouveaux projets \u2013 Il est dans <em>un<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> age<sup>3<\/sup>,<sup>4<\/sup> <em>ou<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> l\u2019<sup>4<\/sup>on ne saurait gu\u00e8re prevoir<sup>4<\/sup> des changements trop avantageux \u2013 et du reste je<sup>7<\/sup> <em>suis<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> si heureux de pouvoir lui t\u00e9moigner en quelque mani\u00e8re combien je lui suis reconnoissant, que je me trouve, pour le moment,<sup>4<\/sup> <em>aussi<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> bien a Vienne, que possible. \u2012<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mon premier voyage sera apparement en Angleterre. Je me rejouis beaucoup de vous y revoir, parceque j \u2018espere que vous m\u2019avez conserv\u00e9 votre amiti\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Veuillez avoir la bonte de dire mille choses de ma part au prince Paul,<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a> et de me rappeler en son souvenir. Je ne crois pas que je<sup>4 <\/sup><em>sois<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> parti <em>de Vienne<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> a Son arrivee.<sup>5<\/sup> <em>Il y<\/em> <em>a<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> assez longtems qu\u2019on <em>n\u2018<\/em>a<sup>1<\/sup> pas eu de nouvelles de C. &#8211; on dit qu\u2019il est bien mal \u2013 J\u2019en serais au desespoir \u2013 car<sup>4<\/sup> <em>c\u2019<\/em>est<sup>1<\/sup> un jeune <em>homme<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> bien distingue et dont sa famille a<sup>4<\/sup> <em>grand<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> besoin \u2013 J\u2019espere que le sejour qui se propose de faire en Italie le remettra entierement. &#8211;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dites moi un<sup>4<\/sup> <em>mot<\/em>,<sup>1<\/sup> si vous <em>en<\/em><sup>1<\/sup> avez le tems, car je sais que vous ne pouvez pas toujours librement en disposer \u2013 et n\u2019oubliez pas votre<a href=\"#_edn3\">[d]<\/a> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Ut\u00f3lag besz\u00farva.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Olvashatatlan sz\u00f3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> Jav\u00edtott sz\u00f3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> T\u00f6r\u00f6lve egy sz\u00f3 Sz\u00e9chenyi \u00e1ltal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref5\">[5]<\/a> T\u00f6r\u00f6lve h\u00e1rom sz\u00f3 Sz\u00e9chenyi \u00e1ltal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref6\">[6]<\/a> T\u00f6r\u00f6lve n\u00e9gy sz\u00f3 Sz\u00e9chenyi \u00e1ltal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref7\">[7]<\/a> T\u00f6r\u00f6lve k\u00e9t sz\u00f3 Sz\u00e9chenyi \u00e1ltal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref8\">[8]<\/a> Monsieur<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref9\">[9]<\/a> T\u00f6r\u00f6lve m\u00e1sf\u00e9l sor Sz\u00e9chenyi \u00e1ltal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref10\">[10]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi al\u00e1h\u00faz\u00e1sa egyenes vonallal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> Baron Philipp von Neumann (1781\u20131851) was an Austrian diplomat, who began his career in Venice and Paris, and later served as secretary of the Austrian embassy in London during the embassy of Prince P\u00e1l Esterh\u00e1zy (1815\u20131842). For his services he was made a baron in 1830.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> Unknown person.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> Prince Antal P\u00e1l Esterh\u00e1zy (1786\u20131866) diplomat, ambassador to London, later minister besides the king.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[d]<\/a> The notes in the notebook K 247 are undated, but it can be established that they were written in July 1819.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to Philipp von Neumann, Vienna, July 1819. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>He has been in Vienna for a month and asks if there are any tasks in their countries that he could be entrusted with. He is ashamed that he often needs his help, but cannot return it. His father is very ill, somewhat better, but not well enough to make plans. His first journey will be to England, and he looks forward to seeing him again.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3370,3438],"tags":[3381,3541,3417],"language":[3705],"addressee":[3814],"place_of_writing":[3397],"qualification":[4185],"place_of_keeping":[4543],"place_of_publication":[4544],"class_list":["post-13725","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-csalad-en","category-the-traveller","tag-family","tag-health","tag-travel","language-french","addressee-philipp-von-neumann-en","place_of_writing-vienna","qualification-draft","place_of_keeping-mta-kik-kt-k-247-17-20-en","place_of_publication-szin-i-842-843-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13725","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13725"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13725\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13729,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13725\/revisions\/13729"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13725"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13725"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13725"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=13725"},{"taxonomy":"addressee","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/addressee?post=13725"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_writing","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_writing?post=13725"},{"taxonomy":"qualification","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/qualification?post=13725"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_keeping","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_keeping?post=13725"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_publication","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_publication?post=13725"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}