{"id":14035,"date":"2021-12-15T11:13:56","date_gmt":"2021-12-15T11:13:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-146\/"},"modified":"2026-06-04T17:55:54","modified_gmt":"2026-06-04T17:55:54","slug":"liebenberg-janos-146","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-146\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Mein lieber Liebenberg.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mein Project ein Haus in Wien zu kaufen, habe ich bis auf bessere Zeiten aufgegeben, indessen habe ich ein recht h\u00fcbsches Quartier in der J\u00e4gerzeile auf 5 Jahre genommen.<a href=\"#_edn1\">[a]<\/a> den 15<sup>ten<\/sup> M\u00e4rz 1821 f\u00e4ngt der Contract<a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> an. 2212 fl.<a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> C. M.<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> ist daf\u00fcr zu bezahlen. Die H\u00e4lfte dieser Summe mu\u00df bis zu Ende dieses Monat erlegt werden. NB<a href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> gehet diese neue Ausgabe nicht aus den 36 m<a href=\"#_ftn5\">[5]<\/a> Gulden.<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ender<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a> hat mir geschrieben, da\u00df er seine 200 # gerne haben m\u00f6chte \u2014 Sollte das Geld nicht vorhanden seyn, obschon Sie\u2019s in der monathlichen Abrechnung anf\u00fchren lie\u00dfen \u2013 so kann ich es indessen bei Arnsteiner<a href=\"#_edn4\">[d]<\/a> nehmen. Schreiben Sie mir deshalb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sodann habe ich in Pest um 1160 W. W.<a href=\"#_ftn6\">[6]<\/a> von Brudern<a href=\"#_edn5\">[e]<\/a> Weine gekauft, die ich auch gerne bezahlen m\u00f6chte, wenn es m\u00f6glich w\u00e4re, da Baron Brudern soeben hier ist \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Indessen pressirt die\u00df Letztere nicht im Mindesten. Senden Sie mir nur meine 3000 fl<sup>1<\/sup> ich werde es daraus berichtigen. Zu Ende dieses Monat und vielleicht schon gegen den 20<sup>ten<\/sup> werde ich nach Zinkendorf kommen,<a href=\"#_edn6\">[f]<\/a> wo ich gegen 14 Tage zu verbleiben gedenke. \u2013 Erhart<a href=\"#_edn7\">[g]<\/a> soll mir ein Bett in dem Winter Conversations Zimmer richten lassen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So eben empfang ich Ihren Brief. Sie sagen mir \u201eda\u00df ich die 3000 fl<sup>2<\/sup> f\u00fcr den Monath M\u00e4rz schon wahrscheinlich empfangen habe\u201e. Ich habe nichts bekommen und m\u00f6chte gerne wissen, durch welche Gelegenheit Sie mir dieses Geld zukommen lassen wollten, da ich doch in der Furcht bin, da\u00df es verlohren gegangen seyn k\u00f6nnte, <em>da uns noch nie Etwas verlohren gegangen ist<\/em>.<a href=\"#_ftn7\">[7]<\/a> \u2014 Schreiben Sie mir de\u00dfhalb und trachten Sie die besagten 3000 mir herauf zu senden, da ich Wien n\u00e4chstens verlassen werde, um zu dem Regiment einzur\u00fccken, und gerne alle meine Zahlungen vor meiner Abreise berichtigen m\u00f6chte \u2014 .<a href=\"#_ftn8\">[8]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Graf Stephan Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi gab mir den Auftrag Ihnen Herr v<a href=\"#_ftn9\">[9]<\/a> Liebenberg noch hinzu zu setzen, da\u00df er n\u00e4chsten Monntag nach Zinkendorf kommen wird. Der ich mich in ihre Wohlgewogenheit anempf\u00f6hle bin<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Euer Wohlgeb.<a href=\"#_ftn10\">[10]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wien den 9<sup>t<\/sup> M\u00e4rz 1821<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Ergebenster Diener<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Jos.<a href=\"#_ftn11\">[11]<\/a> Sultzer<a href=\"#_edn8\">[h]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Latin: contract.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> florins<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> Conventionsm\u00fcnzen<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> Nota bene, Latin: note well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref5\">[5]<\/a> mille<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref6\">[6]<\/a> Wiener W\u00e4hrung<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref7\">[7]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref8\">[8]<\/a> Up to this point, the handwriting is Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s; the rest is Sultzer\u2019s. (Note by Gyula Viszota on the copy.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref9\">[9]<\/a> von<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref10\">[10]<\/a> Wohlgeborner<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref11\">[11]<\/a> Joseph<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> Antal Pigay informed Liebenberg about Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s residence in Vienna: it is located at J\u00e4gerzeile 518 and 519, on the first floor with 10 rooms, on the second floor with 5 rooms, it has a stable with 8 horses. The most famous guest inn, the Einkehr-Wirtshaus zum Lampel, is in the neighbourhood, and the famous caf\u00e9s are also nearby.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> That was the amount he dedicated to himself for a year, and for this he had to pay Liebenberg 3,000 forints a month.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> Johann Ender (1793\u20131854) an Austrian painter who accompanied Sz\u00e9chenyi on his journey to the East.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref4\">[d]<\/a> Baron Nathan Adam Arnstein (1748\u20131838) Viennese banker. In 1805, together with banker Bernhard von Eskeles, he founded the banking house Arnstein &amp; Eskeles, which was the dominant financial institution in Austria for three decades.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref5\">[e]<\/a> Baron J\u00f3zsef Brudern (1774\u20131834), an ennobled Hungarian, was actively involved in Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s horse-racing movement in 1822. His house (a glass-roofed Parisian bazaar) was a notable building in Pest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref6\">[f]<\/a> He arrived in Nagycenk on 20 March but returned to Vienna on the 27th. SzIN 2. 143\u2013145.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref7\">[g]<\/a> J\u00e1nos Erhart (c. 1779 \u2013 ?) was a sergeant in the 5th Hussar Regiment, soldier on leave, groom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref8\">[h]<\/a> Unknown person.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Vienna, 9 March 1821. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>He is giving up the idea of buying a house in Vienna for a while, renting an apartment for 5 years. Ender wants his 200 forints and he needs 1.160 forints because he has bought some wine in Pest. He will arrive in Cenk around 20 March and plans to stay for two weeks. He has not received the 3.000 forints he sent.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2284,2285,3388],"tags":[3544,3417,3690],"language":[3416],"addressee":[3419],"place_of_writing":[3397],"qualification":[3769],"place_of_keeping":[4668],"place_of_publication":[2292],"class_list":["post-14035","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-munkatarsak-en","category-lunkanyi_janos-en-munkatarsak-en","category-gazda-en","tag-money","tag-travel","tag-wine","language-german","addressee-janos-liebenberg","place_of_writing-vienna","qualification-copy","place_of_keeping-mta-kik-kt-ms-4229-181-en","place_of_publication-319-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14035","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14035"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14035\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14040,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14035\/revisions\/14040"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14035"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14035"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14035"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=14035"},{"taxonomy":"addressee","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/addressee?post=14035"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_writing","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_writing?post=14035"},{"taxonomy":"qualification","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/qualification?post=14035"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_keeping","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_keeping?post=14035"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_publication","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_publication?post=14035"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}