{"id":14084,"date":"2021-12-16T10:09:18","date_gmt":"2021-12-16T10:09:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-153\/"},"modified":"2026-06-07T07:19:56","modified_gmt":"2026-06-07T07:19:56","slug":"liebenberg-janos-153","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-153\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Bischofsbad n\u00e4chst Gro\u00dfwardein den 17<sup>ten<\/sup> Jun\u04f1 1821<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mein lieber Freund, nehmen Sie meinen Dank f\u00fcr Ihr Schreiben.<a href=\"#_edn1\">[a]<\/a> Sie haben mich aufait<a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> von meinen Besitzungen gesetzt \u2013 und noch lebt meine Armee, wiewohl die V\u00f6lker schon gez\u00e4hlt sind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mit den Einz\u00e4umungen in Szolga Gy\u0151r Stillstand f\u00fcr heuer! Ich werde dar\u00fcber in facie loci<a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> selber entscheiden; wenn das Geb\u00e4u nur fertig wird. \u2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wunders<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> halber freut ich mich. Wird er in P\u00f6l\u00f6ske besser seyn?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Heute wollte, und kann Ihnen eigentlich nichts anders schreiben, als Sie der 10 M<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> fl<a href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> wegen zu errinern, von denen ich schrieb und die ich aufzunehmen gedenke. \u2014 Denke Sie nur, da\u00df ich von Dauvergne<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a> soeben einen Brief bekam,<a href=\"#_edn4\">[d]<\/a> in welchem er mir meldet, da\u00df die ganze Wohnung von Wien voll Wanzen ist! Es wird also alles ausgerissen, und so zu sagen, das Haus umgekehrt! \u2014 Um wie viel n\u00f6thiger werden uns die 10 M<sup>1<\/sup> nun? So eben schrieb ich an Pigay deshalb<a href=\"#_edn5\">[e]<\/a> \u2013 \u201eWir m\u00fcssen sie haben, wenn wir uns auf den Kopf stellen sollten, oder wenn ich das Majoratsgut verjucken sollte\u201e \u2014 sagte ich ihm. \u201eIch f\u00fcrchte nur den L\u00e4rm, den man vermeiden soll, die procenten keinesweges, denn diese wird meine letzte Schuld seyn, \u2014 Vor dem Tode m\u00f6chte ich aber noch in meinem Quartier wohnen, und das kann kaum seyn, wenn wir nicht geradetzu Schulden machen. So weit kommen wir nicht wie Carl Esterh\u00e1zy!<a href=\"#_edn6\">[f]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Geben Sie den Brief an Sahl\u00e4nder<a href=\"#_edn7\">[g]<\/a> und lieben Sie mich, wie ich Sie liebe, und sch\u00e4tze. Viel Sch\u00f6nes an Ihre Frau und Kinder<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wenden Sie wegen den 10 M<sup>2<\/sup> alles an, was in Ihrer Gewalt stehet \u2014 Ich will sie von der ersten Wollrata f\u00fcr das Jahr 1822 bezahlen! \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sagen Sie mir wie viel \u25a1 Meilen Ungarn hat?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> French: actually.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Latin: on site.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> Mille<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> florins<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> The letter is unknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> Unknown person.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> He was Princess Kaunitz\u2019s former cook; Sz\u00e9chenyi hired him as a house supervisor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref4\">[d]<\/a> The letter is unknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref5\">[e]<\/a> The letter is unknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref6\">[f]<\/a> Count K\u00e1roly Esterh\u00e1zy (1756\u20131828) was Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s fellow soldier in the 5th Hussar Regiment and a supporter of horse breeding and racing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref7\">[g]<\/a> Thomas Sahl\u00e4nder (1788\u20131855), Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s stable master. In 1821 he was contracted to Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi as a veterinarian and stable master in Nagycenk. They went to England together several times to buy horses. Later he was employed by Palatine J\u00f3zsef and then by Palatine Istv\u00e1n. He retired when the palatine institution was abolished in 1848.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Oradea, 17 June 1821. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The decision on the fence in Szolgagy\u0151r will be taken when the building is ready. He reminds him of the money, asks him to do everything in his power about it. 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