{"id":14093,"date":"2021-12-16T10:25:01","date_gmt":"2021-12-16T10:25:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-154\/"},"modified":"2026-06-07T07:41:51","modified_gmt":"2026-06-07T07:41:51","slug":"liebenberg-janos-154","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-154\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Dioszeg den 2<sup>ten<\/sup> July 1821<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ihren Brief<a href=\"#_edn1\">[a]<\/a> liebster Freund finde ich sublime! Sie denken Gro\u00df und edel \u2013 ! Unterschriebner \u00fcbersende ich Ihnen hiemit die 3 Schuldscheine \u00fcber die 25 M<a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> Ist\u2019s n\u00f6thig so dr\u00fccken Sie das Amtsiegel bei. \u2013 Was das Geheimni\u00df hier\u00fcber betrifft, so w\u00fcnsche es ich blo\u00df meiner Mutter Willen, der ich keinen Kummer machen wollte \u2014 sonst ist es mir mehr als gleichg\u00fcltig \u2013. Mich selbst, ich gestehe es, <em>erschrickt<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> sie Leichtigkeit ein wenig, mit welcher ich zu so viel Geld komme \u2014 \u201eich werde daher auf meiner Hut seyn\u201e \u2014. Nachdem ich aber <em>nie<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> wieder eine Schuld machen will so m\u00fcssen wir die 25 m<sup>1<\/sup> klug anwenden. Ich will das Wiener Haus in Ordnung haben, und so Zinkendorf, das \u00dcbrige werde auf die Wirtschaft verwendet: auch w\u00e4re es gut, wenn Pigay<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> allemahl 5 bis 6 m<sup>1<\/sup> fl<a href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> in Bereitschaft h\u00e4tte. Wir sollten das Geld gar nicht anlegen \u2014 Was helfen die einigen Gulden, die in 3 bis 4 Monathen einkommen? \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wie ist es heuer mit den Eicheln? K\u00f6nnen Sie mir da keine Surprise machen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wegen den Schafen k\u00f6nnen Sie machen, was Sie wollen. Mit Ungeduld erwarte ich Ihre Briefe von \u00dcrm\u00e9ny.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>F\u00fcr den Wein werde ich sorgen. K\u00f6nnten Sie nebst den Nesm\u00e9ler nicht einige Eimer alten Somlauer schaffen? \u2014 Ich erwarte Ihre Bemerkungen \u00fcber die Punkte des Racing Calendars.<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a> \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Haben Sie das eiserne Bett in Wien gesehen? Ist es gut gemacht, so lassen Sie eins f\u00fcr mein neues Zimmer in Zinkendorf machen. Werde ich den 10 bis 15 8<sup>ber<\/sup> in meinem neuen Zimmer schon wohnen k\u00f6nnen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Die Nachrichten, die Sie mir von meinen Pferden und von Sahl\u00e4nder<a href=\"#_edn4\">[d]<\/a> geben, erfreuen mich. Gott segne Sie nun mein Theuerer. So weit gehet die Dummheit in diesem Lande, da\u00df man denselben Tag als man Briefe bek\u00f6mmt, auch antworten mu\u00df<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Mille<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with two lines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> florins<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> The letter is unknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> Antal Pigay was the former secretary of Ferenc Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi and the steward of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> He drew up rules for horse racing, with the help of Liebenberg. See also Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s letter of early April 1821.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref4\">[d]<\/a> Thomas Sahl\u00e4nder (1788\u20131855), Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s stable master. In 1821 he was contracted to Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi as a veterinarian and stable master in Nagycenk. They went to England together several times to buy horses. Later he was employed by Palatine J\u00f3zsef and then by Palatine Istv\u00e1n. He retired when the palatine institution was abolished in 1848.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Di\u00f3szeg, 2 July 1821. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>He sends Liebenberg three debt certificates for 25 thousand forints. He never wants to make debt again, so this money must be put to good use. He wants to get the house in Vienna and in Cenk in order, and use the rest for the estate. He has seen an iron bed in Vienna, and wants to have one like that made for his room in Cenk. He gives him a free hand with the sheep. 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