{"id":14178,"date":"2021-12-16T14:31:43","date_gmt":"2021-12-16T14:31:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-162\/"},"modified":"2026-06-07T16:20:45","modified_gmt":"2026-06-07T16:20:45","slug":"liebenberg-janos-162","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-162\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>21 April<\/em><a href=\"#_edn1\"><u>[a]<\/u><\/a> <em>London<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lieber Freund, bald kommt der schwierige Moment (ich hoffe, der letzte in meinem Leben), in welchem ich ganz auf Sie rechne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Ich will f\u00fcr das Pferd etwas thun<\/em>:<a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> Bin nicht verheiratet und werde auch nicht!; Pferde sind wohlfeil \u2014 das Geld ist aber zu wenig, wenn ich mich von England <em>auf immer<\/em><sup>2<\/sup> independent machen <em>will<\/em>.<sup>2<\/sup> Es ist wahrscheinlich, da\u00df ich gleich nach dem Ankommen meine Pferde, so viele von ihnen verkaufen werde, und mit so vielem Gewinn, da\u00df wir auf der Stelle viel Geld hereinbekommen werden, <em>auf das ist aber nicht zu z\u00e4hlen<\/em>.<sup>2<\/sup> <em>Es mu\u00df<\/em><sup>2<\/sup> daher<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1<sup>o<\/sup> aus den G\u00fctern so viel herausgearbeitet werden, als m\u00f6glich.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2<sup>o<\/sup> So wenig ausgegeben, als m\u00f6glich. \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>3<sup>o<\/sup> Mehr aufgenommen werden. \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>4<sup>o<\/sup> Billard Zimmer &amp; ausbleiben, so wie ich gesagt habe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>5<sup>o<\/sup>Mit Liebenberg<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> (in casu Necessitatis)<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> vorl\u00e4ufige arrangemens getroffen. \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ich k\u00f6nnte 200,000 Schulden haben, und doch rangirt seyn, und credit haben (\u201eEs k\u00f6mmt nur auf die Art an, wie Sie\u2018s einrichten.\u201c\u2014)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sonderbar ist\u2018s da\u00df ich von Ihnen hier Keinen Brief gefunden habe. \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Schreiben Sie mir bald \u2014 und <em>scheuen<\/em><sup>2<\/sup> Sie Keine Opfer um, besonders bei <em>Arnstein<\/em><sup>2<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a><\/sup> die gr\u00f6\u00dfte P\u00fcnktlichkeit zu affectiren.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Adieu Vielmal<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Sz\u00e9chenyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with wavy line. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> Latin: if necessary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> The letter was written in 1822, during Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s second trip to England.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> Ign\u00e1c Liebenberg (1772\u20131844) Viennese merchant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> Baron Nathan Adam Arnstein (1748\u20131838) Viennese banker. In 1805, together with banker Bernhard von Eskeles, he founded the banking house Arnstein &amp; Eskeles, which was the dominant financial institution in Austria for three decades.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, London, 21 April 1822. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Soon he will be in a difficult situation, counting on Liebenberg. The horses are cheap, and he will probably sell some of his horses when he returns home. 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