{"id":14210,"date":"2021-12-21T10:12:06","date_gmt":"2021-12-21T10:12:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-167\/"},"modified":"2026-06-07T17:38:54","modified_gmt":"2026-06-07T17:38:54","slug":"liebenberg-janos-167","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-167\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>London den 4<sup>ten<\/sup> July 1822<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Obschon ich im Vergn\u00fcgen lebe, welches nicht ausnehmend leicht zu st\u00f6ren ist, so sind meine <em>Geld Sachen<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> dennoch ein wenig beunruhigend \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ich kann Ihnen nichts sagen, als da\u00df der Credit von 5000 L<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> \u2013 von dem ich bis heute bereits 1770 aufgenommen habe, schwer hinreichen wird \u2013 da\u00df ich mich aber <em>damit begn\u00fcge<\/em>!<sup>2<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Weniger auf keinen Fall! Meine Reise ist sonst verfehlt. \u2013 So eben schrieb ich<a href=\"#_edn1\">[a]<\/a> an Arnstein,<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> da\u00df er sich nicht wundern, kr\u00e4nken, oder \u00e4rgern soll \u2013 wenn die Zahlungen <em>Ihrer Seits<\/em><sup>2<\/sup> auf einmal ausbleiben. Ich h\u00e4tte den Gedanken gehabt bis Ende 8<sup>bers<\/sup> in England zu bleiben (NB<a href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> das sage ich alles an Arnstein) und in der Zeit die 5000 L.<sup>3<\/sup> ausgegeben \u2014 Nun komme ich im August zur\u00fcck \u2013 bin also um 2 Monate zu kurz \u2013.<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a> Ich schreibe sodann ein Langes und Breites \u00fcber Pflicht, Wort, Delicatesse, und tr\u00f6ste ihn, im Fall der Noth mit meiner R\u00fcckkehr \u2014 Ich will aber mein Wort auch halten!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Leben Sie wohl \u2014 Aufs Jahr lebe ich 5 fl<a href=\"#_ftn5\">[5]<\/a> des Tages, Sie m\u00fcssen aber nach England, denn ich habe meinen Aufenthalt mir gar nicht zu nutzen gemacht. Sie m\u00fcssen das ersetzen \u2013 Adieu<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Sz\u00e9chenyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with wavy line. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> Livres<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> Nota bene. Latin: note well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref5\">[5]<\/a> florins<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> The letter is unknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> Baron Nathan Adam Arnstein (1748\u20131838) Viennese banker. In 1805, together with banker Bernhard von Eskeles, he founded the banking house Arnstein &amp; Eskeles, which was the dominant financial institution in Austria for three decades.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> He set off for home in mid-August and arrived in Vienna on September 10. SzIN 2. 304\u2013306.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, London, 4 July 1822. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>His finances are troubling. He has written to Arnstein to prevent him from being surprised if the payments are delayed. He had originally planned to stay until the end of October, but is returning home two months early. 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