{"id":14253,"date":"2021-12-21T14:00:58","date_gmt":"2021-12-21T14:00:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-173\/"},"modified":"2026-06-08T15:15:29","modified_gmt":"2026-06-08T15:15:29","slug":"liebenberg-janos-173","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-173\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>Magendorf<\/em><a href=\"#_edn1\"><u>[a]<\/u><\/a> <em>den 16<sup>ten<\/sup> Novemb<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a><a href=\"#_edn2\"><u>[b]<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Der verdammte Spiegel<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a> hat noch kein baares Geld<a href=\"#_edn4\">[d]<\/a> \u2014 \u201eund es ist noch gar nicht gewi\u00df, ob er mir am 1<sup>ten<\/sup> J\u00e4ner 1823 etwas geben kann; <em>wahrscheinlich<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> ist es aber; denn er hat gegen 40 m<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> C. M.<a href=\"#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> hie und da angelegt, \u2014 die er bereits aufk\u00fcndigte, die ihm aber nicht erlegt werden. \u00dcbrigens sind diese Gelder be\u00ff zahlende \u00e4u\u00dferst sichere H\u00e4usern angelegt \u2014 und der Fehler und die Unrichtigkeit der Creditoren scheint in der wenigen Autorit\u00e4t zu liegen, die sich der wintzige General gibt, wen er seine Gelder wiederfordert \u2013.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Er selbst gesteht, da\u00df sie, indem die Procente immer richtig bezahlt werden, gerade ins Gesicht lachen, wenn er von Aufk\u00fcndigung spricht.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Obschon ich ihm Ernst und Muth eingeredet, und er dreist angehen will, hoffe ich wenig \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Concertiren Sie, f\u00fcr die ersten Zahlungen inde\u00df also in Gottes Namen mit Thibolt,<a href=\"#_edn5\">[e]<\/a> oder auch ohne ihm, wie Sie wollen: ich kann nur meinen Seegen datzu geben! \u2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c0propos ich habe auf meinem Schreibtisch in Zinkendorf ein Recept vergessen (Magen Pillen aus Bittere Kr\u00e4utern bestehend) welches zu sich zu nehmen, und an Pigay<a href=\"#_edn6\">[f]<\/a> senden, Sie die G\u00fcte haben k\u00f6nnten: Pigay hingegen soll es auf jedem Fall hingegen copiren und bis zu meiner R\u00fcckkehr bey sich behalten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sagen Sie Lumley<a href=\"#_edn7\">[g]<\/a> in meinem Namen, da\u00df ich die Fuchsstute Helene<a href=\"#_edn8\">[h]<\/a> sehr Mager haben will \u2014 ohne sie zu Grunde zu richten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sahl\u00e4nder<a href=\"#_edn9\">[i]<\/a> soll hingegen Julia Mannering<sup>h<\/sup> in guter Condition an Leib und Haar erhalten \u2014 da ich sie gewi\u00df verkaufen will \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Adieu Gott segne Sie mein Bester.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Sz\u00e9chenyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with wavy line. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> mille<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a> Conventionsm\u00fcnzen<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> Nagymagyar (Pozsony County), the estate of Count Vince Esterh\u00e1zy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> The letter was written based on its content in 1822.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> Baron Raban Spiegel, brigade commander from Pozsony.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref4\">[d]<\/a> See more details in the letter of 8 December 1822. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref5\">[e]<\/a> Ferenc Tibolth (1763\u20131833) was Ferenc Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi\u2019s livestock manager and comptroller at the Cenk estate centre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref6\">[f]<\/a> Antal Pigay was the former secretary of Ferenc Sz\u00e9ch\u00e9nyi and the steward of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref7\">[g]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi&#8217;s English groom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref8\">[h]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi&#8217;s horse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref9\">[i]<\/a> Thomas Sahl\u00e4nder (1788\u20131855), Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s stable master. In 1821 he was contracted to Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi as a veterinarian and stable master in Nagycenk. They went to England together several times to buy horses. Later he was employed by Palatine J\u00f3zsef and then by Palatine Istv\u00e1n. He retired when the palatine institution was abolished in 1848.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Bratislava, 16 November 1822. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>General Spiegel has no cash, and may not have any to give on 1 January. He left a prescription in Cenk and asks Liebenberg to redeem it and give the medication to Pigay. 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