{"id":14420,"date":"2021-12-24T10:58:33","date_gmt":"2021-12-24T10:58:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-190\/"},"modified":"2026-06-19T14:09:09","modified_gmt":"2026-06-19T14:09:09","slug":"liebenberg-janos-190","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-190\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

7 Jul\u04f1 Dioszeg<\/em>[1]<\/a>[a]<\/a> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Liebster Freund, da\u00df Sie unp\u00e4\u00dflich sind, thut mir leid \u2013 und vielmehr wegen Ihnen selbst, als aus Ursachen, die mein Interesse betreffen: schonen Sie sich deshalb, und trachten Sie vor allen Andern, sich f\u00fcr<\/em>1<\/sup> mich, gesund, froh, heiter und gl\u00fccklich zu erhalten. Ca ira, Ca ira, Ca ira,[b]<\/a> Muth und Geduld.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Wir haben gegen 250 m[2]<\/a> Schulden<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Familien Schulden 250 \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Summa                   500<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Unsere wahre Lage<\/em>,1<\/sup> sind 30 m2<\/sup> Interessen zu bezahlen. Je l\u00e4nger wir an die vereinigte Hauptkassa 50 m2<\/sup> bezahlen, desto mehr Schulden werden bezahlt werden.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ich sehe also gar nichts Verzweiflendes<\/em>1<\/sup> \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Es ist aber gut, wenn wir dergleichen machen, und uns selber betr\u00fcgen, denn wir werden besser auf unser Hut se\u04f1n.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

K\u00e1roly[c]<\/a> bezahlte mich \u2014 Soda\u00df f\u00fcr mich, bis zum 7ber<\/sup> Ende, nicht mehr zu sorgen ist. Sie wissen, da\u00df mir noch 6000 fl[3]<\/a> geb\u00fchren.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nehmen Sie ein Capital auf, so sey es um alle Contos in Wien, Houldich,[d]<\/a> Paul Esterhazy[e]<\/a> \u2014 Fuchsjagd zu zahlen, und in\u2018s Reine zu kommen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

An Thibolt[f]<\/a> schrieb ich mit heutiger Post,[g]<\/a> und bitte ihn mit den Pfarrern Friede zu schaffen, und sich deshalb von Ihnen allen n\u00f6thigen d\u00e9tail geben zu lassen; Sie k\u00f6nnen sich deshalb mit ihm in Einverst\u00e4ndni\u00df setzen. \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Haben Sie mit Ertl etwas gemacht?[h]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Wie viel Wolle hatten wir?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Wird der Stall f\u00fcr die Pepini\u00e8re in Zinkendorf angefangen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Wer ist der P[i]<\/a> der mich unterjocht, und ohne dem ich nichts thun kann?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Was ist das Wichtige, was Sie mir sagen wollen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Der G\u00e4rtner soll Gleditia Trifoliata[j]<\/a> haben. Wie? \u201edas se\u04f1 seine Sache\u201c. \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Adieu Vielmal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ich habe hundert Gesch\u00e4fte, und bin im Ganzen gl\u00fccklich und zufrieden<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sz\u00e9chenyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[1]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi al\u00e1h\u00faz\u00e1sa egyenes vonallal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[2]<\/a> mille<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[3]<\/a> florins<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[a]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[b]<\/a> French: will go. These words begin the chorus of a French revolutionary song, the Carillon national<\/em> (1789) (Ah! \u00e7a ira, \u00e7a ira \u00e7a ira! Les aristocrats \u00e1 la lanterne!). The lyricswere written by street singer Ladr\u00e9 and the melody by B\u00e9court, the drummer of the grand opera.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[c]<\/a> Count Gy\u00f6rgy K\u00e1rolyi (1802\u20131877) was a politician who founded a political club (reunio) with Sz\u00e9chenyi during the 1825\u201327 Diet. He was a patron of the arts and a founding member of the Hungarian Society of Sciences. From 1839, he served as county governor of Csongr\u00e1d County, and then as county governor of B\u00e9k\u00e9s County from 1842 to 1848.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[d]<\/a> Saddler in London.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[e]<\/a> Prince Antal P\u00e1l Esterh\u00e1zy (1786\u20131866) diplomat, ambassador to London, later minister besides the king.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[f]<\/a> Istv\u00e1n Tibolth governor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[g]<\/a> The letter is unknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[h]<\/a> See the letter of 24 June 1823.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[i]<\/a> See the letter of 18 June 1823.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[j]<\/a> Honey locust (a.k.a. thorny locust or thorny honeylocust).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Di\u00f3szeg, 7 July 1823. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

They have a total debt of 500.000 forints. Gy\u00f6rgy K\u00e1rolyi has paid him his debt. He has written to Thibolt to make peace with the priest. He asks how Ertl’s case was decided, how much wool there is, and whether they have started building the stables. He’s got a hundred things to do; on the whole, he’s happy and content.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2284,2285,3388],"tags":[3434,3544],"language":[3416],"addressee":[3419],"place_of_writing":[4680],"qualification":[3769],"place_of_keeping":[4824],"place_of_publication":[2292],"class_list":["post-14420","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-munkatarsak-en","category-lunkanyi_janos-en-munkatarsak-en","category-gazda-en","tag-farming","tag-money","language-german","addressee-janos-liebenberg","place_of_writing-dioszeg-en","qualification-copy","place_of_keeping-mta-kik-kt-ms-4229-263-en","place_of_publication-319-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14420","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14420"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14420\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14423,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14420\/revisions\/14423"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14420"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14420"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14420"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=14420"},{"taxonomy":"addressee","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/addressee?post=14420"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_writing","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_writing?post=14420"},{"taxonomy":"qualification","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/qualification?post=14420"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_keeping","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_keeping?post=14420"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_publication","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_publication?post=14420"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}