{"id":14556,"date":"2021-12-27T20:53:26","date_gmt":"2021-12-27T20:53:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/liebenberg-janos-207\/"},"modified":"2026-06-20T08:49:29","modified_gmt":"2026-06-20T08:49:29","slug":"liebenberg-janos-207","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/munkatarsak-en\/liebenberg-janos-207\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos Liebenberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>19 Februar<\/em><a href=\"#_edn1\">[a]<\/a> <em>Wien<\/em><a href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mein lieber Freund, Alles, was folgt, sub rosa.<a href=\"#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> Ich werde zu Ende des Monat nach Zinkendorf kommen,<a href=\"#_edn2\">[b]<\/a> \u2014 und es w\u00e4re m\u00f6glich, nebst mir, die halbe Stadt Wien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sie in Ihrem Haus, werden in 3 Zimmern f\u00fcr 3 gute Betten sorgen, und f\u00fcr 3 Personen auf Fr\u00fchst\u00fcck. Ihre Pferde werde ich auch wahrscheinlicher Weise aus dem Hause thun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ihre G\u00e4ste werden se\u04f1n die Gr.<a href=\"#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> Vinzenz und Miska Esterhazy,<a href=\"#_edn3\">[c]<\/a> und F\u00fcrst Liechtenstein<a href=\"#_edn4\">[d]<\/a> (Ein Junger, nicht Wentzel).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Die werden w\u00e4hrend 6 Wochen kommen und gehen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2014 Ich kann, wie ich es ausgerechnet habe, 12 Personen be\u04f1 mir unterbringen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sahl\u00e4nder<a href=\"#_edn5\">[e]<\/a> 1 \u2014 Kretsy<a href=\"#_edn6\">[f]<\/a> 1 der G\u00e4rtner<a href=\"#_edn7\">[g]<\/a> 1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Das macht in Allem \u2014 18<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Es ist m\u00f6glich das 24 kommen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wo werden wir die hin thun?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Denken Sie vorl\u00e4ufig dar\u00fcber nach. Sie brauchen jetzt gar nichts zu thun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Adieu<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\">Sz\u00e9chenyi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a> Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s underlining with straight line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Latin: confidentially.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> Grafen<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref1\">[a]<\/a> The letter was written based on its content in 1824.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref2\">[b]<\/a> He arrived in Cenkre on 1 March 1824. SzIN 2. 467.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref3\">[c]<\/a> Counts Vince Esterh\u00e1zy (1781\u20131835) and Mih\u00e1ly Esterh\u00e1zy (1794\u20131866), friends of Sz\u00e9chenyi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref4\">[d]<\/a> His diary does not say which Prince Liechtenstein it is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref5\">[e]<\/a> Thomas Sahl\u00e4nder (1788\u20131855), Sz\u00e9chenyi\u2019s stable master. In 1821 he was contracted to Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi as a veterinarian and stable master in Nagycenk. They went to England together several times to buy horses. Later he was employed by Palatine J\u00f3zsef and then by Palatine Istv\u00e1n. He retired when the palatine institution was abolished in 1848.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref6\">[f]<\/a> J\u00f3zsef Kretschy, Sz\u00e9chenyi&#8217;s hunter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#_ednref7\">[g]<\/a> Most likely J\u00f3zsef Stepanek, Sz\u00e9chenyi&#8217;s gardener in Nagycenk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to J\u00e1nos Liebenberg, Vienna, 19 February 1824. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At the end of the month, he&#8217;s going to Cenk, and he might take half of Vienna with him. Liebenberg will be accommodating 3 guests in his house, he himself will be accommodating 12 people and 3 of his staff will be accommodating one guest each, for a total of 18. But maybe 24 people will come; he asks Liebenberg to think about where they can be accommodated. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2284,2285,3388],"tags":[3417],"language":[3416],"addressee":[3419],"place_of_writing":[3397],"qualification":[3769],"place_of_keeping":[4879],"place_of_publication":[2292],"class_list":["post-14556","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-munkatarsak-en","category-lunkanyi_janos-en-munkatarsak-en","category-gazda-en","tag-travel","language-german","addressee-janos-liebenberg","place_of_writing-vienna","qualification-copy","place_of_keeping-mta-kik-kt-ms-4229-304-en","place_of_publication-319-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14556","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14556"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14556\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14559,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14556\/revisions\/14559"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14556"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14556"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14556"},{"taxonomy":"language","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/language?post=14556"},{"taxonomy":"addressee","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/addressee?post=14556"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_writing","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_writing?post=14556"},{"taxonomy":"qualification","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/qualification?post=14556"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_keeping","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_keeping?post=14556"},{"taxonomy":"place_of_publication","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/place_of_publication?post=14556"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}