{"id":14721,"date":"2021-12-28T20:27:01","date_gmt":"2021-12-28T20:27:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/uncategorized\/jozsef-nador-2\/"},"modified":"2026-06-20T16:17:49","modified_gmt":"2026-06-20T16:17:49","slug":"jozsef-nador-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/en\/great-enterprises\/jozsef-nador-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Archduke Joseph"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Erlauben[a]<\/a> Euer k. H.[1]<\/a> da\u00df ich vor allem Andern, ganz kurz, jene Zeiten in E. k. H.[2]<\/a> Ihr Ged\u00e4chtni\u00df zur\u00fcckrufen d\u00fcrfe, in dem E. k. H.2<\/sup> meinem seeligen Vater mit Ihr er Gnade, mit Ihrem[3]<\/a> Zutrauen, mit<\/em>[4]<\/a> Ihrer achtung[5]<\/a> 3<\/sup> beschenkten<\/em>4<\/sup> \u2013 Jene Zeiten, wo mein Vater durch das Gef\u00fchl der unbegr\u00e4nztesten Ehrfurcht f\u00fcr E. k. H.,2<\/sup> durchdrungen \u2013 einsehen lernte, da\u00df Alle Gedanken und Handlungen E. k. H.2<\/sup> ausschlie\u00dflich das Wohl, das Gl\u00fcck unseres theueren Vaterlandes zum Ziel habe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sind E. k. H.2<\/sup> so gn\u00e4dig jene Tage, so wie ich unterth\u00e4nigst bitte, in Ihre Errinnerung zur\u00fcckzubringen, \u2013 so darf ich hoffen, da\u00df E. k. H.2<\/sup> mich, und meine Handlungen mit Wohlwollen und mit Nachsicht beurtheilen werden.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Eur kais- H.2<\/sup> werden gewi\u00df wissen wassich den 3ten<\/sup> N\u2013[6]<\/a> in dem Zirkel der St\u00e4nde zugetragen hat.[7]<\/a>[b]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ich bin seit vielen Jahren Besitzer von ansehnlichen G\u00fctern \u2013 und seit vielen Jahren, w\u00fcnsche ich zu dem Gl\u00fcck mein LandsLeute kr\u00e4ftig beyzutragen.[c]<\/a> \u2014 Die Gelegenheit die sich dem 3ten<\/sup> N\u20146<\/sup> darbot, \u2013 wo die Warheit, da\u00df die Gro\u00dfen und reichendes Landes,3<\/sup> Ihnen in der allgemeinen Zahl,[8]<\/a> wenig oder nichts f\u00fcr das Land thun<\/em>[9]<\/a> nur wenige mit b\u00fcrgerlichen Tugenden ausgeschm\u00fcckt5<\/sup> sind, laut ausgesprochen ward \u2013 Dieser3<\/sup> Umstand sage ich, hat mich dahin gerissen, im heiligen Eifer \u2013 jene Erkl\u00e4rung zu machen, da\u00df ich gerne Ein j\u00e4hriges Einkommen dahin geben wollte, um so eine Anstallt begr\u00fcnden zu helfen, die gute und ehrliche Hungarn bildet8<\/sup> dem Lande gute3<\/sup> M\u00e4nner und rechtschaffene B\u00fcrger, Seiner M.[10]<\/a> unseren viel geliebten Kaiser und K\u00f6nig aber \u2014 treue Unterthanen, und gebildete und taugliche Diener ergreifen w\u00fcrde. \u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n

H.[11]<\/a> von V[12]<\/a> \u2013 G. A. G.[13]<\/a> Karoly waren von dem selben Gef\u00fchlen durchdrungen, mit fortgerissen. \u2013 Nun bin ich aber der Erste, und so sind die andern, einzugestehen,8<\/sup> da\u00df unser<\/em>4<\/sup> Antrag, nicht zu seiner Zeit \u2013 nicht an seinen Ort3<\/sup> gemacht wurde<\/em>4<\/sup> \u2014 nur bitte deshalb E. k. H.2<\/sup> im Namen aller Andern, uns gn\u00e4digst entschuldigen, \u2013 und die Art unseres Verfahrens, aus Liebe zu unserer Ehrlichen5<\/sup> und uneigenn\u00fctzigen Absicht, \u20133 <\/sup>gro\u00dfm\u00fctigst \u00fcbersehen zu wollen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[1]<\/a> kaiserliche Hoheit<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[2]<\/a> Euer kaiserliche Hoheit<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[3]<\/a> One word deleted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[4]<\/a> Interlining afterwards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[5]<\/a> Corrected word.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[6]<\/a> November<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[7]<\/a> Four words deleted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[8]<\/a> Two words deleted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[9]<\/a> Inserted afterwards.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[10]<\/a> Majest\u00e4t<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[11]<\/a> Herr<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[12]<\/a> Vay, [\u00c1brah\u00e1m]<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[13]<\/a> Georg Andr\u00e1ssy Graf<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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[a]<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Two letter drafts addressed to Palatine J\u00f3zsef are found under the call number K 195\/101. The one above is the version marked II, which contains fewer corrections, so presumably this is the version he intended to send.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[b]<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0 At the district meeting held on 3 November 1825, Sz\u00e9chenyi offered one year\u2019s income for the establishment of a learned society. His offer was followed by others, first by Counts \u00c1brah\u00e1m Vay, Gy\u00f6rgy K\u00e1rolyi and Gy\u00f6rgy Andr\u00e1ssy. (The offerors are commemorated in Act XII of 1827.) The district meeting was a forum for drafting, so no minutes were taken of what was said there, and therefore the events of the day can be reconstructed from memoirs and diaries. In his diary, Sz\u00e9chenyi merely recorded the following about the day, \u201cIn der Zirkul[ar] Sitzung geprochen; und mich mit allen meinen Landleuten verfeindet.\u201d (SzIN 2. 642.) For the method of payment, see his letter to the National Assembly of 19 March 1826.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

[c]<\/a>\u00a0 For more on his search for the way, see Gyula Viszota\u2019s introductory essays in the first two volumes of his diaries, Gergely 1972., Oplatka 2005. 9\u2013140, Csorba 2024. 87\u2013127.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Recommended reference:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi to Archduke Joseph, Bratislava, 8 November 1825. Edited and annotated by Szilvia Czinege. Published in Correspondence of Istv\u00e1n Sz\u00e9chenyi. Digital edition. Edited by Szilvia Czinege and Zolt\u00e1n F\u00f3nagy. https:\/\/szechenyilevelezes.abtk.hu\/ Abbreviation for further references: SzIL-Digit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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